0:00 So I saw this really interesting video about Asian Americans becoming CEOs and I thought it was really interesting. I wanted to see what you guys thought of this. >> Asian Americans when the company is dying and nobody's talking about it. You are twice as likely to get the leadership role when the company is already failing. Not because they finally see your talent, because of a stereotype that you'll sacrifice yourself, work harder, fix it quietly and take the blame. When everything's burning, we need you. When it's stable, we're going in a different direction. You weren't promoted. You were positioned to take the fall. So next time they offer you that opportunity, ask, are they giving me power or liability? Because one builds your career, the other ends it. If you have watched this happen or lived it, drop a
0:50 comment. And if you're navigating cultural bias and leadership dynamics at work, comment, consult and let's decode what's happening. >> Kind of interesting, right? I've never heard that opinion before. >> I'm more curious as like who this person is or like what her business I'm looking at like where she's talking from. >> She's selling coaching. >> I also think she's a ████ You know why? Cuz she's assuming the Asians going to take it and fall. >> Yeah. >> I'm assuming the Asians going to come in and fix all the ████ that the wrong people did the white people did wrong. >> They usually tend to. >> They fall or they fix it? >> no. They usually do tend to fix it. >> I usually see Asians, not Asian Americans, take the fall for other Asians. >> [laughter] >> That's what happened with Isn't that what happened with Microsoft? >> that Indian guy? >> Yeah, and then and then the ████ >> Yeah. >> And it was like this for Bill Gates for the longest and then boom, but maybe >> Everything she said is true. Asian guy's
1:40 going to come in and fix everything, sacrifice his life. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So what? >> [laughter] >> I think her point is that when things are going well, the opportunity is not given. >> Yeah. >> It's only given when it's like they're they've exhausted all the other white answers they have. >> Yeah, cuz Chad is going to give it to ████ Bradley, and then when it's ████ all ████ up, then it's like, "F███, let's get Yang in here." >> [laughter] >> Yang's good with numbers. >> I can understand where she's coming from. I can understand where she's coming from in terms of like uh let's say we let's say we accept this mentality, and then the company's failing, you're like, "Oh dude, we got to bring Yang in." >> [laughter] >> Yang again. >> Because he's the highest chance we got right now. >> And if it don't work out, he'll blame himself. That is a win-win. >> Maybe it's not like such an evil intent position this guy to take the fall. Maybe it's a much more general like "Damn, this guy's the best we got. Let's
2:30 hope for the best." >> And then they just happen to understand that this is the best that they got also because if it doesn't work out, he might take the fall himself. >> What a win. That's it. You know what I mean? >> And if you tried Chad and Brad, and it's the same ████ like you do usually go, "What else do we got? Let's just mix it up." We tried the first three things that are similar, and they all didn't work out. >> that, too. You know what this reminds you of? I don't know if you ever heard this like somebody explained this to me way back when I was in like starting college. And they were saying that like clubs, the club industry in LA, they said that all big clubs start out white clubs. And then after the white people are tired of it, then it goes down the race ladder. Have you ever heard of that? >> I've heard of that, and so like So this ties in with corporate America and what she's talking about, and I think she's viewing it from like a white savior
3:22 mindset, where she's like, "Oh my god, don't you know that you're going to be the one taking the fall?" Yang is like, "Oh, I hope that Brad ████ up again cuz I'm coming up." >> Yeah, cuz they want that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> So like with churches, even churches like that, right? They have like Sunday service, English service, then Korean service at 10:30. Same thing with the clubs. All the that hierarchy, it goes across the board. All of them can't wait for the white crowd to die out at Avalon, so now ████ the Asians can come and take it over. They can't wait. They can't wait for Ralph's to go out of business so it can turn into a 99 Ranch. You know what I mean? >> All the H Marts I know were used to be Ralph's. >> See? >> They used to be a John's or something like that. >> thinking like, "Oh, you're going to be the fall guy." The Asian guy is like, "No, I'm not. I'm going to take over, motherfucker." >> Yeah. >> Maybe the sentiment comes from the fact that
4:12 even though this Asian person steps into that role and rescues a company, those shares or those dividends or those profits still technically go to the white people who put them there. >> [laughter] >> Also though, that Asian who got put in that position is probably richer than they've ever been, too, though. So like >> Oh, for sure, yeah. >> It's It's all the same ████ >> It's relative, yeah. >> I'm also just curious to see what solution she's offering. >> Like say no? Say no to an opportunity? [laughter] >> So that more white people get in? >> Like, here's the right way to handle the situation if you're an Asian person trying to be a CEO. It's just like a very like, how the ████ would you know though, you know? >> Yeah, it's like like >> Zoom needs a new CEO. >> Are you supposed to go like, "No, I'm going to stay second in line." >> I know what this is. This is a trap, you know? >> Maybe it's like, "Don't feel too happy about it." >> Yeah, you're like >> You should be sad and rich.
5:03 >> All right. >> [laughter] >> You should be successful and depressed like me. >> It's a weird message. >> a weird message cuz it doesn't provide any type of solution. It's just like a observation, I guess. >> And I think what she's trying to get Asians to do is trying to get like >> Stand up for yourself. >> Telling Well, it's She's trying to like Imagine trying to tell black guy don't dance. Like if he hears beats, he's going to be like, "Oh, s███." [laughter] Asian dudes, if you see an opportunity, they're going to grab that ████ Like, what the hell? >> Dude, your your impression of a black guy hearing music [laughter] being like, "Oh, ████ I got to I got to pop it like" is honestly hilarious. >> [laughter] >> I like how how distant those two examples are where it's like an Asian guy getting a CEO opportunity and a black guy hearing music. >> Yep, he's like, "Oh. oh." >> they're they have it every day. >> Yeah, it's the same thing. >> [laughter] >> Oh, oh, oh, damn. >> Yeah, because Asian guys he sees a job
5:54 opening and he's like, "Oh, oh, oh." >> Oh, yeah, you're >> They need me. >> Yeah, they'll take it. >> He's not going to say no. >> Would you accept her or would it be different if it was an Asian chick saying that? >> I mean, you're a ████ still. >> [laughter] >> What if it was an Asian guy? >> If it was a guy? Guy, oh, he's speaking the truth. >> Yeah, if for whatever [laughter] his it was like an Asian guy, I'd believe him more. >> What if it was a Jamaican guy? >> Last name Chang or >> Don't be a victim, man. >> [laughter] >> Hold your horses, man. >> [laughter] >> It's not what you think it is. >> Don't be believing. >> [laughter] >> Don't go chasing waterfalls. It's all just an optical illusion. >> [laughter] >> That'd be the weirdest video to come across. Hey, this Jamaican guy said I shouldn't be proud of my promotion. [laughter] >> It's not a top promotion. It's something else.
6:45 >> [laughter] >> Yeah, she's like apparently a cross-cultural coach. >> Man, she made that ████ up, dude. I mean, she got almost 100,000 followers. >> a imaginary Well, it's like an imaginary HR department and I can see why she would gain a following cuz she's saying things that people want to hear. >> Yeah. >> You know? Like people that feel like they >> a little bit. >> got crossed or maybe got the short end of the stick and they're like, "Yeah. Yeah, those guys don't do me. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I am a black guy who hears music and >> Any opportunity that puts, you know, an Asian person in a nice position to bring others up, that's great, right? Why are we mad at that? Are we mad at that? >> No, not me. >> Well, I don't I can just kind of don't understand what she's really mad at, either, too. >> Well, she's not mad, right? >> Not mad, but like what she's what >> I think she's perfectly phrased it so that you can't really get mad at her.
7:35 >> But she's saying it in like >> Be careful. >> Yeah. >> It's just like if this is just the type of content where they're just fishing for leads, you know? So, it's just like always one of those things where it's like, all right, what's the You want me to just type blessed in the comments so you can send me a ████ consultation call. >> I know. It definitely does make at least like sense mathematically. When you look at the graph, remember like at a Ronnie Chieng and Hassan show how like they're showing like graphs of big companies and when they finally got an Asian CEO, how much bigger it was. And like, who's to say that like right around that time they made that choice was about the time when they did what you said where they're like, well, either it's going to rocket up or they're going to take the fall. You know, and it'll be his fault and not ours and, you know, who knows? And you just put this guy in that position to excel knowing that he'll sacrifice his full life because culturally he puts his
8:25 whole heart and soul into this job and you can just be like this and just collect dividends. Yeah, maybe there's something to that. >> But whether you're CEO or not or they're Asian or not, it's like if you're CEO, it is ████ kind of all on your back anyway. >> I just think that the preface of what she's When I actually sit back and think about it, it's a because the thing she's saying is like, dude, hey, if you're getting offered a CEO position, take a second to pause. And you're like, well, number one >> Take a second to pause. >> You know, [laughter] and you're like, wait, first of all, that's such a like that's such a sick and rare thing that only the highest level of humans >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, they're already doing it. >> Look at it, bro. It's 100K likes. I'm like, what the ████ Who's this for? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of you guys got that opportunity? >> How many CEOs? >> Yeah, yeah. Dude, I don't I think even if I know I'm going to take the fall, I'm going to take the position.
9:15 >> Yeah, I'm like, I'm going to say yes. Yes. Yes. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Who do you think I am? >> I'd rather fall from a higher point of severance pay. >> Yeah, cuz then you're also saying it's like, all right, the company's failing. You're going to take the position or you don't take the position, the company failed anyway. >> Yeah. >> What are you going to do? You're You're like you lose or lose? What So, what's the advice? What's the advice? >> But you win on Next Shark. >> [laughter] >> I think it's just that thing of like, I don't know. It's weird thing where like it seems like some people like to perpetuate that whites are your enemy no matter what you do in life. Like don't be thankful. >> Imagine like Jeremy Lin had that attitude. Like, oh, I'm about to play. I know what this is. I'm not playing. >> You're setting me up for failure. You're trying to make me score points for you. >> [laughter] >> We're down by 30. I know what this is.
10:05 >> I'm not going to score points. >> I'm going to keep not playing and I'm just going to sit I'm just going to sit on the bench. >> Do my best? Yeah, right. >> [laughter] >> For the owner? Time magazine? Nah, no thank you. Chicken my armor? Yeah. >> Yeah, right. >> That's where you get those people that have that weird like almost socialist sense of things where they're like, work for your company? Uh-uh. I got to be an owner. >> I hear this from people that complain about when they work with Gen Z kids. >> Yeah. >> Cuz there's a sense of entitlement of like, what's the point of me doing work here if it all ends to nothing? But it's like, no, that's not true. It's a false premise. It doesn't lead to nowhere. You just haven't thought about all the ways it can help you, you know? It's like, it's ████ like that where it's like, it's it's not the end goal, it's the process that makes you the person that you are. >> That's cute. >> Yeah, how about ████ your end goal? One hour of work, $12. You want it or not? Like >> [laughter]
10:55 >> That's the deal. >> It's pretty simple. That's the that's pretty ████ simple. >> It it it's not that much farther than that. >> Yeah, you don't got to dig dig too deep, dude. >> That's true. >> Yeah. >> On the flip side, I don't think I've ever seen like a Asian company about to fall apart like, we got to get the white guy in here, man. >> [laughter] >> Get the whitest guy in town. >> [snorts] >> Get the most chill guy you know. >> Skyflakes is failing. Get the white guy. >> Yeah, Skyler, man. >> [laughter] >> Cuz it's usually like if it's a Asian company they they'll just keep replacing Asians until >> They're like, who's the most autistic Asian on the team? Let's get him up here. >> The only thing they will do is they'll get a white spokesperson or a white uh image. You know how they do that? They'll get like Russian guys to act like they're American white guys. >> This is what Asians will do. They'll They'll run the company down by just only having nepotism and then eventually replace it with a merit-based person.
11:46 >> Yeah, who then will use nepotism after. >> Okay, let's turn this around. >> the nepotism chain continues with a different >> And the only >> family. >> And the only consistent is the Russian spokesperson. >> [laughter] >> Who's acting like he's a white >> guy from California. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let us know what you think in the comments. Is this just a bunch of fluff? Does she have something here? Are we missing something? Cuz maybe we don't have the right idea and you do. Tell us in the comments. >> Uh, we don't We know everything. >> I think she's trying to sell money, dude. She's trying She's trying to >> Sell money, dude. >> [laughter] >> She's trying to steal our money, dude.
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