0:00 So you know how you say Kinjaz branding is ████ up by JK? My branding gets ████ up by JK. So like >> JK is your brand. >> I know, but there's different facets to my life. >> Me, too. >> So >> [laughter] >> So for me, here I'm like bar ████ JK crazy crazy guy whatever, right? >> Yeah. >> In like my jiu-jitsu community, I'm like the strength and conditioning coach >> Uh-huh. >> to >> crazy guy. >> to two world champs. >> Right. >> And I they they and they don't know too much about JK or whatever. So I'm just a cool social media guy. >> Uh-huh. >> And then the reel comes out of me jerking off the kumquats and stuff. >> [laughter] >> Now they're like, "Oh, that's the tree gooner. This one likes to goon on trees." >> [laughter] >> So even my ████ is like "Wait, so the tree They're like, wait a second. So the tree gooner is making sure you're strong
0:52 enough for the mats?" And then it's like a whole thing now that people got to explain why like they got to trust the tree gooner. >> [laughter] >> Why he has a legit strength and conditioning program for these guys. So you're not the only one. >> You know what? I've lost jobs. >> What jobs? What jobs are you talking about? >> are you losing? >> talking about? >> What are you talking about? >> [laughter] >> No, like like A PAINTER'S JOB? >> WHAT JOB? >> I STILL pitch outside of JK for projects, right? >> Okay. >> So um there was a marketing position for a non-profit out in Hawaii. And then I got recommended because like my background many digital accomplishments, right? So they showed
1:42 them and they're like, yeah, like he's got millions of followers on YouTube, like he's whatever. And I did a serious like pitch video and they're like, "Wow, super talented, right?" First video they pull up is me talking about GETTING RUSTY TROMBONE. >> THEY PULLED THAT UP? >> YEAH. >> WHY DID they pull that up? >> No, like when No, they're They're looking >> Oh, in their internal meetings? >> Yeah. No, we're watching. >> Oh, you were there? >> I'm pitching it. >> Yeah. >> They're like learning about me for the first time, the staff. Like they're ████ punching in like my accomplishments, Just Kidding News. >> Mhm. >> What pops up? Getting ████ ass eaten. All day long. And they're like, "Oh, f███." Right? [laughter] They love it. Here's the thing. They love it. A non- Yeah, think about it.
2:32 >> Can you head a non-profit? >> [laughter] >> A non-profit, government affiliated, I can't say which one. >> Which government? >> State Hawaii state government. >> Save the turtle. >> Okay. >> Save the owner. >> [laughter] >> Save the owner. >> And they're like They can't even say like what the ████ Like they're laughing, right? >> yeah. >> They love [laughter] it. >> Yeah. >> Here's the thing, is personally, they would watch this ████ at home. And a lot of people in Hawaii, they're pretty like their humor is like dark. >> Sure. >> Like they're And then they could be corporate or whatever. But they can't associate with me. >> Right. Yeah. >> Next video, I'm doing SOME RACIST ████ >> [laughter] >> SO, IT'S JUST A BAD LOOK. Here's the thing. I ████ myself and I burned the bridge behind me. I can't do anything else. That's what I
3:22 realized. >> Oh. >> [laughter] >> I could have ████ been making hella money. Taking everything I learned on the digital space. ████ selling it to corporate. But whenever I go into these rooms and they look me up, it's And then I got ████ came all over Oh, oh, oh, you know? Can you Can you imagine like I can't work with you? Like I'm like, "Bro, like trust me. I can ████ I can do so much better than this stupid ass college marketing intern." >> You know I lost a book deal cuz of you, too. >> Cuz of me? >> Yeah. >> Cuz of you? >> No, so for real. So, I was I was pitching uh I was pitching a book idea that I had. I had a couple meetings. This one was with a publisher. But, here's the part that sucks. Publishers are usually the maggot Asians. You know You know what
4:12 I'm talking about? They're like They're usually like those kind, right? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> So, they're they're like very sensitive. They're very like like sharky, like that style. And then so they're like, "You know what? Like this seems really really like a really cool book idea." He's like, "But the first video I pulled up, it's your partner Joe talking about if uh his pregnant wife has a kid that he doesn't want, he's just going to sock her IN THE STOMACH." >> [laughter] >> AND I WAS LIKE, "YEP, I REMEMBER THAT VIDEO." [laughter] I remember that. And she's like, "And you know, like the whole choice thing, whatever. It's not uh it's kind of a sensitive This is This is like like maybe three or four years ago. He's like, "That's kind of a sensitive subject." >> dude. >> And then I was like, "What does that have to do with the book, though?" She's like uh she's just like, "We don't want things to go out there, and then there's
5:03 politics. They trace back who published this guy's book." And I was just in my mind, I'm like, "You are too maggity for me." So, I don't even want to work >> Self-publish, dude. This is what I'm saying is to make our fans happy, to make ourselves happy, we've thrown away millions so we could do this. And then not only that, I ████ myself for future opportunities. I realized, "Hey, maybe I'm 40 now. I can like market my skills outside, do other things, right?" >> Yeah. >> No one wants to ████ work with me. >> [laughter] >> They want to be my friend. They're hella ████ cool, don't get me wrong. And they'll tell me on the side, "Dude, you probably are the best qualified person that's like even overqualified." And they're like but man like we can't we can't pitch you to the council like the yeah the group like
5:54 everybody's like that pregnancy video is just too crazy. >> [laughter] >> Dude, that's crazy. >> I don't even know that >> You don't remember that video? >> I wasn't there. >> Yeah, he's just joking around. It's just one of those like jokes like joking around, you know? Like he's just like >> Like he just jokes around the whole time. >> But the delivery is the key in the magic, right? So people are so negative. It's like it's like dude Hey this master can make such a ████ up thing funny. Doesn't that mean he's a great convicer? >> This master. [laughter] >> Well, it's also like don't you know what satire is? Like are you ████ ████ >> Right. >> Like is he really going to punch a pregnant lady? He's just he's just making a joke or having a fun time. >> Yeah. >> But people are just so ████ though. >> Yeah. >> You guys are doubling down right now. I'll tell you that.
6:44 >> other way to waste the words where to go. >> else to do, yeah. >> I seriously don't know what else to do. We could slow it down. We could stop saying a couple like >> key words >> I'm even damaging to my own brand. Like I'm like I hold back because of Junbi. >> I feel like okay. >> [laughter] >> I hold back tremendously. >> Junbi damages JK. >> Yeah, cuz we're being associated with a bunch of ████ for the past 2 years. >> You just you've been since Junbi this has been you HOLDING BACK? >> [laughter] >> FOR ████ YEARS? >> This is me being good. >> [laughter] >> It's been a long time since you started Junbi. 5 years. 5 years you've never hit your >> 5 years I started managing >> What point do you What point do you stop yourself? Like when you're talking? When do you go ooh no no no. When does like when does like like which
7:35 >> [laughter] >> which where where where are we What are we missing? What are we missing? >> in coming everywhere that's like >> [laughter] >> Is it a is it a how many? >> Is it not even close? >> Is it a numbers thing? >> Where Where's your line personally for you? >> My line is when it's no turning like back as in like you can't you can't you can't explain your way out of this ████ right? So like I think I do safe things where it can be taken vaguely or like yeah, it's wild enough it's so ████ wild that no one would believe it even if it's >> Oh, okay. So it has to be so preposterous. >> Okay. >> Cuz if it's actually believable, then um it can be used against me. >> Right. >> But then you look stupid for thinking that it's real. But the fans know some of this ████ is ████ real. >> But Joe, isn't it being used against you?
8:26 >> You're right. It is. It's used against myself. >> That's you. Yeah, that's the you. >> So when you say certain things, are you like haunted and kind of like imagining what you're saying now being played in a boardroom in front of people? >> No, I don't ████ care. I think I that moment was so funny to me. Like I was like I want to do it again. I actually think that me and Bart have a different barometer. I won't do some a lot of the ████ he won't do. >> Hell no. >> What did I do? What the hell What does he say that you think is >> I won't do the ████ you would do. >> [laughter] >> Which things are do you hear from Bart that you're like oh, I wouldn't touch that? >> Or like that's too far. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Like the pedal Bart era? >> Oh. >> Like that s███'s hella funny. >> But that to me is the man you're ████ if you believe it. >> That's the thing is like I don't do I don't do you're ████ if you if you
9:16 believe it. You go there not knowing that the context is people don't know who you are. >> Yeah. >> But then if I outright say man, I ████ was getting ████ by 50 men they know that that's ████ crazy, right? That's just a crazy statement. >> [laughter] >> It's bad for my brand, but that is that is a crazy statement. >> what >> saying like like that's the most that that's where I stop because I'm like I understand how that's a very descriptive example, but then now I've I've gone and I've said it on on four cameras no less, you know, and then it's it exists now. It exists. >> That's the difference. >> I feel like once we I I hypothetically, I know it makes it less fun for you know, all of our greatest fans, but that's the difference. The Wong Fu difference I would like to call it, right? >> Yeah, we'll never get a ████ brand deal by 7-Up, but maybe Monster?
10:06 >> I don't even think Monster. I mean, there's everybody sees the same tromboney. Yeah, we need yeah, we need like maybe uh some random Mexican >> Those ████ pills at the gas station. Spanish fly. >> Yeah, yeah. I don't know, but this is where it's just been us from the beginning. Like we threw away the opportunity for millions to make each other laugh and our fans laugh. And that's all that mattered. >> [clears throat] >> I didn't think about my future. I still don't think about my future. I I should think about my present and what it affects, but it's like ████ man. Maybe yeah. >> But it's hard to think so much. >> It's a lot of thinking. >> I'm so surprised by the fact that he'll say something and you're like, "Ooh, no, that's too much." >> [laughter] >> I'm like, "Dude, >> I'm so surprised by that.
10:57 >> I was surprised by it too actually. [laughter] I was like, "Ooh, Bart, you shouldn't have used those words." >> I do understand because to me it's not like he says honestly his most outlandish things is like it's actually clear. His most outlandish things are are true stories. >> Oh, what do you mean? Like >> It's like jacking off on or like tetherball. >> That's not what's crazy to you, right? >> No, but that's always the stuff that's like, "Man, that's or like, you know, ████ doing a tele periscoping his ████ and then s████ all over your shoulder." It's like it's it's not >> No, it's not nasty stories. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> I would say >> That's usually the ones that everybody's like, "You didn't have to share that one for your brand." >> That didn't ruin my publishing deal, though. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, that's not what they brought up, so. >> They didn't talk about me ████ on my shoulder. >> Punching a Punching your pregnant wife in the stomach's way worse.
11:47 >> Yeah, [laughter] that's ████ bananas. >> I I got suspended on Instagram because this fan asked me, "Hey, how did you get your arms so big?" And I said, "By beating my girlfriend every every day." >> [laughter] >> See, they don't understand the satire. >> Yo, I know for sure Ryan knows that I'm probably the for sure number one careful boy that does not accept all of his posts. >> Oh, he never takes my collabs. No, wait. >> expect accept some, either. >> He doesn't, either, sometimes. >> I accept all of them. >> [laughter] >> He's Bart will do the most of them, yeah. >> I do insta accept. I don't even watch the reel. I just go, "Yep." >> [laughter] >> And then sometimes I go, "Ah, ████ ████ on trees and s███." I'm like, "Ah, dude, now there's going to be a bunch of people I know me in real life that think I do it." And I Imagine all the ████ jiu-jitsu parents. They're like, [laughter] >> "Hey, Timmy, let's leave that guy
12:38 alone." >> Yeah, I do. >> Tell you this, though, where it did benefit me, >> [laughter] >> where it where it did benefit me, is if there's a JK fan that is on the other side of the table and I didn't know. And then they'll be secretly like like if like let's say um I'm trying to negotiate a lease, right? I met I meet with the leasing team. Someone on the leasing team is actually a JK fan, but not fanboying. And so, he'll throw me some bones. And then like I was like, "Man, there That was nice." Or there the tension will be like, "Oh, I know I I Hey, you're that guy, right?" So, the room or like that business like, you know, like I'm trying to get you trying to get me, that ████ goes away. Immediately, there's All right, I'm going to hook you up. And I was like, "Dude, there's been so many times of just networking and and
13:28 like hookups and things like that where they don't know who I am, but this guy does, right? And he goes, "Oh, he does funny videos." Okay, cool. They don't really ask. And then I'm like, "Dude, that's when it's like that it feels like a we're a part of a ████ cult." And it's like the JK club. >> It is a It is a cult. >> That's when it's ████ cool. >> It is definitely a cult. >> Yeah, that's when it when it's benefited me a lot in life. >> But you also don't know how many publishing deals you didn't get. >> Or how many we're about to not get for that like just this video like now this video's going to be the recent example of all the problems. >> Or how many times someone was flipping through photos and came to you and they're like, "Nah." >> [laughter] >> Not that guy. We don't need gatekeepers no more. You could publish your own things on Amazon and then you could Markiplier, he ████ proved it. We don't need nobody. >> Amazon's not going to be able to use
14:18 this video. >> Yeah, dude. No, the basis of this conversation started though cuz you said, "You know how Kin just ████ blah blah." Yeah, ████ you think I'm supposed to empathize that you two ████ up your own ████ >> There's things worse than your own. >> I did further studying I did further studying. I don't think JK ruins your brand. I think Steve ruins your brand. >> [laughter] >> Cuz he's the only one going crazy on you. >> That's true. >> JK JK actually doesn't do too much. >> Steve got all of your best bits. He's the one who created them. >> Yep. The greatest Steve hits of Anthony >> He even made the the 9/11 thing. It's all Steve. >> But that's not as bad as uh so many others.
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