0:00 December 3rd, 1:00 p.m. Fort Hood. The Pentagon has just said the first live execution by firing squad is happening. >> Holy >> celebrating or not? >> I don't know. Are you watching? Okay, this is streaming. This is the first US military execution execution since 1961. First military firing squad since 1945 for Nidal Hasan, ex-army psychiatrist who killed 13 people at Fort Hood on November 5th, 2009. Also, an unborn baby also died with her mother, not counting in that. >> Woah. >> Our army psychiatrist? >> Yes. >> Wow. >> He like flipped out and like just shot everybody in the >> at Fort Hood. So, this is supposed to be poetic justice at Fort Hood again in Tennessee. >> by the >> Is it cuz he got PTSD from them like telling him and then he got mad?
0:50 >> Secondhand PTSD. >> No, no. Watch, watch. >> Okay. >> I'll watch. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> No, don't don't set me up. Just say it. >> No, no, no. I mean, do the fine details. You know what I mean? >> How about you do the broad details and >> What we don't understand, he can do the fine details. What's the broad detail? >> With the sound effects. >> From what I heard, right? >> [laughter] >> This guy this guy had like couple dudes under him. And uh all of a sudden >> How do you spell that? How do you spell all of a lot of sudden? >> [laughter] >> All of a sudden >> All of a lot of sudden. >> All of a sudden. >> sudden he went all Akbar. I swear to God. >> Did it Okay. >> Oh, he's Muslim. >> Yes. >> Oh, Hasan. Yeah, that's right. Okay. >> No. And then yes, what he said was true. It was like a unborn kid in there still.
1:40 Bang bang doodoo doodoo. >> [laughter] >> He's just shooting? >> Yeah, pop him. >> That is the sickest broad description. All of a sudden he went all Akbar. >> [laughter] >> Bang bang doodoo doodoo. >> He needs only four words, but you get what you you understand it, dude. >> I don't know if there's [clears throat] anything more to it, man. >> You want me to be simple flying stores? Talk to me. I'll simplify for you. But, there's broad details on it, and I read up on it, too. Go ahead. >> I mean, honestly, the details are from literally over 17 years ago now. >> Yeah. >> It's wow. >> Yeah. >> He was sentenced to death to execution in like 2013. >> Mhm. >> So, he's just been in jail this whole time. >> Super long-standing death row sentence. >> And in the break, like military jail? >> Military, yeah. >> Behind Allahu Akbar's. >> [laughter] >> Eight, nice. Plus two. I like that. >> Yeah, he was a major and an Army
2:30 psychologist. On November 5th, 2009, he opened fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 13 people and wounding more than 30. >> Oh my god. >> words, in a letter to his local Texas paper, the the Killeen Killeen, what's up, Killeen? The Killeen Daily Herald, he said he was defending my religion against US foreign policy, which he saw as an attempt to replace Islamic law with secular government. At his 2013 court-martial, he represented himself. He told the jury he had switched sides in what he called America's war with Islam. Said, "I am the shooter." And later leaked documents saying he saw himself as a martyr. >> Damn, that's crazy, man. >> He was just nuts. >> He got radicalized. >> Yeah, what led up to it was he was he was weeks from deploying to Afghanistan, which he feared. Prosecutors said he'd been looking for ways out, and in the
3:20 year before he sent about 15 to 18 emails to Anwar al- Awlaki. >> Mhm. >> Nailed it. >> The radical cleric in Yemen. He asked about suicide attacks and when jihad is justified. Al- Al-Awlaki later called the shooting a heroic action. The FBI had seen those emails and wrote them off as his Walter Reed research. A mix-up between two FBI field offices meant nobody reviewed the full picture. >> Yeah, another screw-up from those guys. What a bang-up job they did. >> read it. No, I thought you read it. You didn't read it? No, I didn't read it. >> And then how it ended in court, the army never charged him with terrorism. He was convicted of 13 premeditated murders and 32 attempted and sentenced to death. The judge blocked most of the motive evidence including emails whose contents were never released. So, the Pentagon just announced this morning that they're going to live stream it. It's been approved by Trump but there's still
4:11 space for an appeal. >> What if you know how like this is like the first time of a live firing squad? >> Since 1961, yeah. >> If that wasn't like I guess brought back, do you know by any chance what the original way of killing him was? >> Uh all I know is >> Lethal injection? >> I would assume lethal injection. >> Usually that's the go to, right? >> He's in Texas, yeah. >> This is kind of sick, dude. If you're in the army and you kill your own that's ████ crazy, bro. >> Like firing squad's like the poetic justice? >> Yeah, cuz you shot ████ on base, that's crazy. >> it's just cheap, you know what I'm saying? Like let's be realistic here. How much is a round of .308 or .50 caliber is compared to a lethal injection prep and all of that? >> .50 caliber would be insane. >> Yeah, [laughter] I mean .50 caliber is cheap, RIGHT? YOU KNOW >> IF YOU WANT MORE VIEWS, YOU got Pentagon, you guys should do .50 cal. >> You're going to be cleaning up so much
5:01 blood, brains, and guts. >> a dude perfect. >> Yeah, I guess, right? But the .50 caliber you're just going to It's not You're not going to feel it once, you know? You're just going to be like gah. >> Also >> It's going to be black. >> That's true. If you don't want him to suffer. >> I'm surprised that that they didn't kill him on the spot. >> No, you They probably approached him but then he already dropped the weapon and started yelling Allahu Akbar, you know? >> a cop, all the cops are like, "We're going to kill this guy. Put the handcuffs away." That's LAPD. >> [laughter] >> Not not really. That's other states. Not really. >> [laughter] >> No, I guess the parallel analogy would be if everyone's working like ████ like the other guys or 21 Jump Street, everyone's cops and one of the cops turn on the other cops. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Then when you're like cuz then now you're like, when you when it's a a civilian trying to kill a cop, we're going to merk this
5:51 ████ But when it's one of us, you're like, oh ████ >> Take him alive? >> Well, you're like, dude, that was my former partner. Like, what the ████ Hey, drop your ████ weapon. And they drop and you're like, dude, I don't know what the hell's going on. Then there's like a little bit of hesitancy. >> That dude like hit injured 30 people though? >> And killed 13. >> Like, if he's in this like military, you you don't know what the hell you're like, when you're on base, there's like an extra layer of safety in your brain, right? It's like almost being in the 49ers locker room. Everyone's a 49er. We all ████ roll with each other every ████ day. We train every day. There's like this sense of camaraderie. So, if one guy is like a ████ undercover whatever, and he's actually a Dallas Cowboy or some ████ you're like, wait, whoa. And there's like a little bit of hesitancy. You don't just jump on him right away, you know? You try to figure out what the facts are. >> Or if it's DeShawn Love and he's not on your team at all. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, [snorts] probably had like the guys who are like pointing a gun at him
6:42 probably had a hard time to Muhammad, come on, bro. We just had barbecue together. >> Yeah, or he was your doctor. >> You're like, mate, I don't eat the pork. >> What if he said that? >> What's going on? Like, he's a ████ >> Nobody listens to me. >> Yeah, it's too it's kind of complicated. >> Yeah, it was probably >> weird that a radical Islamic guy became a um psychiatrist, cuz that's usually not really a yeah. >> I think you got to be kind of nuts to be a psychiatrist personally. >> Well, because he's a psychologist, he probably went too deep. >> I also wonder what the sentiment was in 2009 though. >> Like, I think maybe now like years later >> Maybe he was tired of everyone calling him like a rag head or something. Cuz you know, like back then everyone called him ████ ████ ████ or whatever. >> And then he's in there, he's every day taking it, just taking it. And he's like, what the ████ man? [snorts] >> Real reason, he just didn't want to sit because how emotional he's going to sound. So, he was just like, I don't
7:32 want to say. >> Cuz cuz that sounds like >> He pretty much. >> like so like duh now, but like maybe back then it was like just a completely different atmosphere. >> It just sounds like someone told him to do it, and he was like, "All right." >> Well, what's crazy about this story is it's sort of repeated a bunch like in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our our our forces would be working with the locals, and the locals would often turn on our guys and start shooting at them. >> All the time. >> There's so or so many stories of that. >> I heard uh that one guy started shooting at him because they wouldn't let him um do a little boy. >> That's >> Whatever the reason is, they they're easily to turn around quick. You know what I'm saying? >> They can simply just >> say, "Yo, this guy has my whole family in their locker. So, I have to shoot you guys." >> [snorts] >> I don't know if that helps, but um so, Pete Hegseth said it's going to be livestreamed 1:00 p.m. December 3rd, uh
8:24 and their intention is to make it so that everybody's capable of watching and viewing. You guys watching? >> I'll watch it. >> You gave me enough notice. >> I also think you kind of have to. You know why? Like Like one thing I'm really conflicted about, I don't quite under It's like it's really like complicated. Like yes, um people that are Muslims or have or practice the Islamic faith, they're not the enemy, right? They're It's the the radical It's the >> The radicals of their own like faction, yeah. >> But, when you are that, the chances of you turning are a little bit higher than if you're not. But, with the amount of freedom that we have in this country, you could be any faith, any belief, and you can join the military if you take the oath, right? To defend the country. So, in any other ████ country, like if you're in a fully Muslim country and
9:15 you're like, "Hey, I'm Christian and I want to join your guys' army." I'd be like I think they'd be like, "F███ you." >> Oh, yeah. >> ████ out, right? But, in our country, you could be Sikh, you could be Buddhist, you could be Hindu You could be whatever the ████ >> We even have Satan worshipers. >> You could be a Satan worshiper, and they're like, "But, you promised to be American, right?" >> Yes, sir. >> Hey, and that's what makes us great. >> And so, that we have ultimate freedom, but with ultimate freedom, you also have the craziest amount of variation and outcomes that's possible. So, you have a guy that's like this, he goes through the whole pipeline, army, psychiatrist, whatever, and then like now that he becomes like of the other side and he has had all this access within our army, I feel like you have to make an example. Like, "Hey, we're going to keep with these freedoms, and if you don't fully
10:06 believe in what America's fully about, that's cool. You can still if you're still be a proud American, but if you ████ around, this is what's going to happen." >> Well, I think that's why they're they're even like in the actual way that they're trying him or they did try him, it wasn't about terrorism, it was about straight murder, right? >> Yeah. >> It's like kill people. It's not it has nothing to do with belief. It says, "You did this and this is why you're going to >> Killed a hell of dudes, bro. That's not even >> But I actually think they should charge him on terrorism because it was motivated by a jihad, and on top of that, the punishment should be harsher because he's a soldier. So, it's like >> I fear I fear repercussions if it's like the narrative says it's about terrorism and stuff like that, and then we do what? Live firing squad just like live stream to our country and it it sets a different precedent on like what we care about, I think. >> What's harsher than what he got, though?
10:56 >> Well, I think using a tank >> It's not about killing him. It's about the narrative. If we're killing him because like he has his belief and that's how the media's going to turn out, I think that's way scarier than like, "Hey, he just killed a bunch of people the wrong way. Let's merk him for that." Does that make sense? Versus talking about it being like a terrorist thing. >> But it was a terrorist thing. >> No, but you definitely was. >> But but you know how our country's super sensitive when it comes to that stuff, it it becomes way more polarizing when we call it a terrorist thing. Does that make sense? >> Yeah, I think what you're saying is like it could possibly be all the other like if you just call it murder for what it is, okay, he's a murderer, but the minute you bring religion into it, >> then every other military position who could also be Muslim, they're going, "Hmm." Like, maybe they don't turn or whatever, but then it does raise a new thought bubble. >> But, he's already considered a martyr. Like like Al-Qaeda calls him a martyr.
11:46 So, like I just think it's like here's what happens to your martyrs, brother. >> it as Muslim and terrorist as as synonymous. So, I guess that's where the perception is different for me. >> Cuz you could think nuance, but I think a lot of people are so broad strokes. Cuz I just I could he could be a radicalized >> uh communist. Like he could be To me, it's someone that is supposed to be on our side, a soldier, he takes an oath. They should go through harsher punishments because he's an enemy combatant. Like he's turning on his own, you know, countrymen. And I think that's different from a civilian terrorist. >> Yeah. I think a civilian that turns terrorist, I think it's completely different. >> It's choosing to do a public execution, which means you're choosing to now have public opinion. And the second you involve public opinion, the second you just better get your narrative in a way that's like helpful for public opinion. >> so you know, he's do- he's getting shot because he murdered people. >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz get your PR in order.
12:38 Yeah. >> Then like honor the I guess position he was taking. It's more like you just can't do this ████ >> Yeah. And to me, because we just haven't had a public execution for like six decades, it's a spectacle. And then even when you're like, I think you have to, it's like I think that's a very interesting way to put it. What What do you mean when you say like we have to watch it? Cuz like are you Is like Taika going to watch this? >> No, I'm not saying we have to watch it. I think you almost have because it's so severe, you kind of have to go back and go, "Okay, what is a punishment that we haven't done to set a new precedence?" Got it. You know. You probably have to watch it. I'm going to watch it. >> military? >> I'm going to watch it for sure. >> He's going to watch it just because he he would have wanted to. He watches from other countries already. >> Look, bro. Like here's the thing, right? I also feel like Pete is um I'm going to click. Pete's just trying to make a status saying like, "Hey, why are we the
13:28 powerful country? Everyone else can ████ execute however they want, but we're over here trying to be gentle about it, you know?" So, I think he's now saying like "We're the strongest country and we're going to go we're going crazy, too." And, you know, and uh for the other part is there's so many execu- execution videos online already. Like, this ████ is just going to be another normal one, you know what I mean? >> For you, but >> [laughter] >> for other people they don't see execution on >> Yeah, that's very true. >> non-Telegram users >> Fun fact, in the Old West, it was a common thing when you caught a bad guy and you're going to execute him and do a public hanging, the whole town came. That means children, grandma, everyone came to watch it. >> There were nothing else to do back then, though. >> [laughter] >> They didn't have TikTok. >> But no one was like, "Not my child." They go, "You see, that's what happens when you commit crimes." >> That is the best way to teach your kids, yeah.
14:18 >> That and we should see that. >> Or or you or you're like, "You know what he you know what he did? He didn't go to bed on time." >> [laughter] >> That's what my mom would do. >> The crazy thing you're saying is it it did it's right. That sentiment it actually works the other direction for these kinds of crimes. You know the whole like, "Look what happens." That look what happens is motivation for that side. >> Yep. Cuz you want to die a mar- martyr. >> It's not the same as like, "Don't be like this guy." It's more like, "See what you can be." >> But that's probably why they're trying to contain the narrative and like let's get the other part out of it. He's just a murderer. >> That's why Anthony was saying like like rather than put the priority on the crime that he committed versus the ideology behind it. >> Yeah. >> And just get ready for the uh protesters. >> There are going to be. >> It's already happening. >> It's easy compared to a guy shooting up a whole freaking unit. >> Mhm.
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