0:00 All right, interesting take. Taiwanese parents, they don't ground you, they ship you off, right? Like other kids got grounded, but Bart got >> So, that's super true cuz I know a whole list of Taiwanese ████ I got shipped off. I'm one of them. I went to Army Navy Academy. >> Jason Chenny's one of them. >> two. >> My cousin who's ████ up like crazy back in Taiwan, uh they shipped him over here to go to school. So, he ended up coming here, lived with my mom, and so he could uh go to Did he go to Cerritos College or Cypress College or Elac? One of those. But, he went to go live with my mom for a while. And then uh one of the craziest stories I heard, cuz my mom would always threaten me with this, but uh one of my mom's friends, he she had a kid that would ████ up even more than me, got
0:50 kicked out more schools than me, and at their wits' end, they really didn't know what to do. So, they found this uh service where like two or three like bodyguards would come into your house. Cuz this is for parents that are now in fear of their kids. Like the kids will ████ the parents up. >> Oh, this is like the uh Jerry Springer era. >> Yeah, where these guys would come, uh kidnap you pretty much, take you to like this remote place where you cannot escape, and now you're with the bare essentials. Like you're sleeping on dirt in a ████ teepee or whatever, and you're going to like learn life from the ground up, and then they're going to try to like rehabilitate you. And there's this kid that um my mom's friend had to call the service on, and my mom would always threaten me with this one. Like if you do this one
1:40 more time, whatever. >> Did they did they call it a name or something? What would they call it? >> Um they they wouldn't call it. They're just like, "Do you need me to call the people that come and kidnap you in the middle of the night?" >> That's the name of the company? The people that come and kidnap you in the middle of night LLC? >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I'm like >> And take you and make you live on Bear Grylls Central for 5 7 days. >> LLC >> Yeah, yeah. [laughter] >> But I only heard it from like yeah, Taiwanese families where they do ████ like this. >> Dude, that's Alone. That's the show Alone. That's the whole premise. >> No, I think those guys volunteer and then they win money at the end. >> Oh, but it's like it's like a people pay money like people nowadays because they're addicted to their phones, they will pay money for a dopamine cleanse, a dopamine detox. >> Mhm. >> And they'll >> Makes sense. >> go to a spot where they have to do all these little things. They can't get stimulated by anything. >> First of all, Alone is one of the sickest shows, period. >> It's very good. >> Period.
2:30 >> Filipinos got shipped out a lot, too. >> Where did they go? >> To Guam. >> Really? >> Um like from America, Filipino Americans to Guam? >> Yeah, like if they're ████ up or being bad for some reason people in my family got sent to live in Guam. >> There's a huge Filipino diaspora in Guam. >> Cuz I I also always felt kind of like a little bit weird where I was like man, I'm so jealous of Mexicans cuz like let's say if I got in trouble, right? And like let's say I went to jail >> Uh-huh. >> I feel like, you know, you were like let's say you have your family members come visit me in jail. I feel like my mom would just come and go, "See, you ████ up. You'll be in here for a long time." >> Yeah. >> You know? And then like but when I would see like Mexican Mexican folks come out of jail and "Oh, he's back." You know, there's like like some celebration or they would feel sad, but like
3:20 but the Chinese way would be like if you went to jail, they'd be like "Haha, I tell you you ████ up." And then if you came back from jail, then it would be like "Oh, this ████ back from jail. Hope he learned something." And it just felt like there's like never this like >> No street cred. >> Why is there never any warmth? >> Like penance for it. >> I would see Mexicans go to jail >> Conditional love. >> go to jail and come back and it's still full of love. >> So, I see that and I'm just genuinely asking for the for the sake of this though, but like doesn't the doesn't the other make a lot more sense though? Like, this ████ just went to jail. Why are we throwing him a party? >> I think yeah, it does make >> perfect sense. It's not It's not about not I get the love and the warmth part. I'm just more like a >> It makes perfect sense. But then when you see like a whole family welcome someone back from jail,
4:11 you make sure you go like their the their feelings of miss overshadows that he ████ up. >> Mhm. >> But in the Chinese family, it's your your feelings of he ████ up is way higher than the feelings of how much you love your son. >> I agree with that better though. I think that's the better cultural response. Like, nobody's more shamed from someone ████ up than Asian culture. >> Yes. >> I think like when you have like Mexicans, that's when you have ████ takeovers and all these moms that are like, "Don't take my baby just cuz he looted a ████ 7-Eleven." >> That like like recently the takeover on the bridge where all the mini bikes were there and you had that dad doing his interviews going, "They doing nothing wrong. I'm here with my daughter. It's fine." >> That's crazy. Do you know they had parent chaperones for that ████ A lot of the cars were their parents. >> That's what I'm saying. That's when you
5:01 get dads like that that are just ████ I'm like, because he he's valuing more the opposite thing rather than the fact that his kid's ████ up. And I And I think you survive more when you have weaponized shame in your family. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good shame. >> Yeah. >> Like, you turned out great because of that. >> Honestly, I probably did. If I was welcomed back with a celebration, I'd be like, "I should go to jail more." >> [laughter] >> Right, exactly. It's like that's not a positive reinforcing situation. You should be like ostracized for some period of time. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> Yeah, the only way is if it was like >> Damn, this fool went to jail and we all for sure believe he's innocent. >> Oh, right. Yeah. >> That would be maybe the only one. >> He was framed. >> Yeah, like dude, he was innocent the whole time. He's been in jail for 2 years. Let's Let's throw a celebration. >> Yeah, for sure. That definitely makes more like logical sense to me.
5:51 Cuz like I feel like if I got arrested and my parents were like upset about it, they'll never have a positive side of that my entire life. >> And publicize it with the rest of the family. Hey, come celebrate he's coming out. It's like >> No, yeah, yeah. And I was arrested and they never did have a positive side. The to this day they'll just like look like to this day my mom will reminisce at times and then she'll remember bad things I did and get sad all over again as if I just did it. >> are you kidding? That's like 30 years ago. >> tough one. >> Yeah, it'll never become this like haha, remember when you were bad boy? Like it's never like there's no light side of it. I can't get to that. I don't know why. >> Yeah. She just gets depressed again. >> That's [laughter] so hella real, hella sad. >> I know, isn't it? It's like I thought we could laugh about the ████ ups now, but you just still can't. >> come out of nowhere where you guys are talking about something nice and then
6:41 she'll kind of like bring it up? >> Two Thanksgivings ago. My mom goes She's just sitting there with my aunt, we're talking. My mom goes Oh, [gasps] you put me through so much in your teen years. And my aunt goes, yes, you did. And both of them just start [laughter] My mom looked like she was going to cry and I'm like, are you kidding now? >> You got to call it out. >> [laughter] >> You're like, you're actually making yourself cry right now. >> Yeah, I was like, what the heck? >> You know, you should have doubled down. You should be like, did you remember when I did this thing though? >> Oh my god, dude, yeah. >> Just double down. >> more things to think about. >> Dude, it's it never gets light. That's why like it blows my mind when you got like like the Hispanic culture like you said, when they celebrate out of jail or celebrate about to go to jail. I'm like, that's insane to have your parents on your side for doing the bad thing.
7:31 >> Their ability to celebrate is ████ It'd be like superhuman. Oh, his DUI period's over. He got his license back. And in [laughter] the in the Asian family you'd be like, what the ████ That's crazy. >> [laughter] >> Honestly, I want to live that life. I wanted to live that life where I have a superhuman ability to celebrate everything. >> I bet. I bet. Test [laughter] me. That's why I celebrate now. We talked about it. That's why I celebrate now cuz I didn't celebrate a lot of things I wanted back then. I'm like, dude, you know what? >> It's good for self-love. >> Maybe we just got it wrong. Maybe we should just be happy. >> You go too far on one side, either way you're not in good shape. >> like I would trust the stats. >> Yeah, you got to be in the middle on it. You can't be too far on one way. >> Like when you see these like statistics
8:21 of like why are ████ Asian households leading in all these different ways? Like don't don't if it's not broken, don't fix it. >> they're celebrating every ████ thing. >> Exactly. There's like a There's a payoff. >> They're celebrating A's, not because they're getting suspended. >> Like I'm sure there's a short-term satisfaction with being celebrated that you got a D+ instead of an F, but in the long game >> But also too, you develop that. >> you celebrate things, the less important it feels. It doesn't feel special anymore. So it's like it's just the human condition of like, oh, we were celebrating for this and cuz I remember there was a time where we were celebrating at TIS family's house. We had parties like every ████ weekend to the point where I was like, I don't even give a ████ about these anymore. That's how I felt. And they used to feel so special then I go, I don't really care. Because we're going to have another one next week. You know, so like too much of
9:12 a good thing is a bad thing. So it's like we got to chill out a little bit. >> And it's the same thing. They're going to go, they're going to have a barbecue, then everyone gets drunk, then all kinds of drama comes out. And then they're going to pretend like it didn't happen, and then the next time is the exact same ████ >> And that's life. >> I don't even want to deal with ████ drunk people drama. >> That that's like life for some people. You know what I mean? Like that's the whole thing. That's the whole purpose. And they're they're not it's just different. You know >> Different strokes. >> You know what's a crazy thing? So, do you know my friend Happy? >> Yes. Yeah, yeah, with the beard and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, really nice guy. >> At my wedding, he was a dude that's tatted up in all Hello Kitty and ████ He's like a He looks like a huge redneck. >> Crazy beard, sometimes like braids it like a Viking. >> So, his He grew up in Orange County and his mom was a cop and he was such a bad kid that I don't I still to this day don't know
10:02 what his crime was. But, he got He was basically sent to jail and he had the option of being shipped out to a youth prison in Samoa and they decided to do that. >> Oh, ████ >> And he's white, so it's like crazy that like that would happen to him. So, he got sent to this basically a prison camp for kids in Samoa that was so abusive to the prisoners that Dateline NBC came and shut it down. They did an investigation special and they got it shut down and that's the only reason he got freed. >> So, he had to come back to America. >> So, he's so good now though, right? He's such a good guy now. >> Yeah, he's great now, but he said that like he would he was supposed to be there for the ████ longest time. But, because it was basically Guantanamo Bay for, you know, teens, they ended up shutting it down. >> Bro, but when you got Samoan teens, you
10:52 got to beat them up a little bit. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, bro. Like >> You're using lethal rounds. >> You got to get big other Samoans to help. >> [laughter] >> There's like documentaries about it on like Netflix and ████ about this like Samoan prison camp for kids. >> That's crazy. >> Because it it became what everything becomes. Like you said about A&A, the the baddest kids end up running the show and then there's nothing anyone can do anymore. >> When they're 6'5". >> Yeah, dude, that's what I'm saying. >> 6'5", 13 years old. >> [laughter] >> I'm not going to class. I'm going to lift weights. ████ you. ████ YOU. ████ THEM UP. ████ them up. Punch the guards in the face. >> [laughter] >> But, good thing this dude is Samoan sized himself. Like what would a what would a small guy do there? >> You're done so. >> I don't know how big he was when he was a kid, but >> he's always been ████ an ogre.
11:42 >> He's a very big dude. He's such a cool guy. >> He's such a great guy. >> He's a guy that like just wears like a dino onesie to chill out. >> Sick. >> [laughter] >> That's a vibe, though. >> He would love to tell his stories on here, though. They're ████ nuts. But I mean like I was like he's the first person I knew that got shipped out that wasn't Asian. I was like, "Whoa, you got shipped out." >> one's from like the government. Asians are parents shipping you out somewhere. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah. >> Do you think it was like maybe there was just a culture of Taiwanese kids all being kind of ████ dicks? >> Well, they always say it's like you got to change the environment, right? That's like the best way you can >> Well, like so I think out of so I think Chinese is already very cold. I think Taiwanese is extra cold and extra like sociopathic. And I think that's why they create these
12:33 crazy like troublemakers because they just want to be like seen or like heard, you know? >> So I think there's a emotional side that's not met. >> Yeah, I think that yeah the the needs of the kid aren't being met at all. >> Sounds about right. >> just [laughter] like going crazy. >> Yeah. >> sense. >> Yeah. >> And they'll do anything they can for attention. >> Yeah, and if you just so happen to be the Taiwanese kid with the right genes for it, then you excel like crazy. But then if you don't have those genes to just like, "Okay, obey and conform." then you're just like, "Dude, do I even have parents? My parents don't even feel like parents. Do they even love me?" And you just like, I don't know, it goes makes you crazy. >> Everything's like a cry for attention. >> Yeah. And their love is conditional, too. That's the thing. >> conditional. >> Plus there's the I feel like what plays the biggest role is the fact that you have like classic parenting from a
13:24 totally foreign country trying to navigate America. Like America's style of youth. And it just doesn't connect especially when you're Yeah, there's it's very hard. I'm glad we don't have to really deal with that, you know.
// end of tape