0:00 Have you ever known someone that was a really nice person? There's like nothing wrong with them, but for some reason you just don't like them. >> Oh, I could say a lot, but I'm trying to pinpoint like >> Yeah. >> who it is, and I can't really pinpoint it because I think once I rule someone out, I just delete them from my mind. >> Damn, they just don't exist in the universe? >> Yeah, but when I I think the Yeah, sometimes there's just no chemistry, or sometimes people are too clean or too perfect, and you're like, this is weird, like this guy's kind of like a psychopath or something. >> There's this guy that I met, and he's actually kind of just I still ████ like [laughter] this guy. >> You called out the group? Well, there's 40 of them, right? Process of elimination. Uh >> Yeah, good luck finding him. No, and and
0:50 and it's funny because like >> You recently met him, or you've known him for a long time? >> I met him a long time ago. I met him a long time ago, and the second I shook his hand, and I looked in his eyes, I was like, what's ████ wrong with this guy? There's something off. Like, I just don't like something about this guy. >> Who do you think that is? [clears throat] >> Every single time you've got these spidey senses, right? Has Have they been right? Cuz you know how some people they're like, >> Dude. >> I don't know what it is yet, but ████ this guy. And then later you find out like, they're constantly cheating on their wife or like something ████ up. >> I don't know, it's probably like Bart's where like I kind of just stop thinking about it, and then I don't see them, so it's gone. But like, you know that feeling of like when dogs think there's a ghost, and they're just barking at nothing? It's that feeling in me where I'm like, there's nothing to feel alarmed at, but I don't know why I just don't trust this person. And then, um
1:42 I had brought it up to like one of the guys in um one of the Quest guys' girlfriends was also there, and I brought it up. I'm like, am I weird for like, I don't like that guy? And then she goes, me, too. >> What? >> Yeah, and she was like, "I don't know what's wrong either." So, it's not just me cuz I and she's not inclined to agree with me just randomly. She was like, "No, there's something weird. Something in his eyes is just >> Is he too corporate? Like he's too like fake? >> Yeah. >> Oh, no, I don't want to give away too much cuz I want people to figure [laughter] out >> But but but but kind of tagging on to that, right? I had Okay, so I've been kind of thinking about why we have like spidey senses telling us be ████ careful when um they haven't done anything wrong. I actually think
2:33 just the intuition as a as a human species, right? Like there's like red flags that we get a visceral feeling around people. We're like, I would think we're not we're not very judgy based on superficial things. Like us three, we'll make friends with some scoundrels, right? Cuz we know like oh, this ████ likes to steal, but he's my boy. Like I could forgive that. >> Right. >> Whatever. So, I don't think we're those type of people where people will judge superficially and wrongfully. I think I judge in a really good way. But I do think we evolved to especially women. There's like something off about a ████ Like women will be like, "This motherfucker's a serial killer." And she'll So, they'll they'll be victims, but the one the the ones that aren't victims, they'll know. Like a
3:24 mile ahead, right? They'll be the stupid ones that are like following a butterfly into a person's home, you know, like >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. But I I think I think I think it's that. I think we have these like like ████ animalistic feelings that we evolve with to kept to keep us safe. Like don't let this ████ in your tribe. Don't let this guy in. >> I will say the last time before that that I can remember I had this feeling about a person was when I was doing work in China, and there was this guy that like everybody kind of had that feeling about but but he was like he hadn't done anything and he was nice to everybody but everybody that we were working with was like no that guy's kind of weird and then like a year later it came out that he had like hooked up with like underage students. >> See, you guys were smelling the PDF file on them. >> Prior to that we had no reason not to like him. We were just like it feels weird. He didn't say anything. He had no clues. It was just like a almost like a
4:16 like a pheromone. >> [laughter] >> I don't know what it was. >> You know before when we first started doing JK I never understood why all these ████ Hollywood ████ wanted to like meet first. We were just so like just send over the email of what you want the deliverable and let's just get the business going and I think it was because my EQ was so low. I didn't understand like how people operated so I'm like a robot, right? But then the older I got the more I understood why like before you even get into business like yeah, go golfing with the ████ go out and eat and drink. So you can kind of like have all your spidey senses up and and feel if this guy is even a good person before you even commit like pen to paper. And I didn't get that before. >> Cuz you'll be affiliated now. >> Yeah, cuz before I didn't get it. I was just like >> There's like an association. >> You could benefit from me, I could benefit from you. Let's ████ sign the
5:06 contract. But then so many of those later on you find out yeah, they're like a PDF or some other other weird ████ comes out. >> Cuz anything you do will affect their rep cuz that's who they last saw you with. This guy by the way is not I don't think he's a kinja. I think he just knows them. >> Oh. >> I don't think he's a member. I wouldn't say. >> But he probably wishes he was. >> He's a hang around. I can't really say. I just >> Anthony wishes he was. >> I just know I met him around them and [laughter] I was like what is this ████ >> Yeah, I've I've had that tons of times but I actually have the opposite. Where I see who this ████ is, compulsive liar, um, issues, right? But there's something about them I like. >> [laughter] >> And there's something about them that fascinates me where I either keep them
5:56 around or I want to see how far they go. So I I do this a lot where like let's say I got a good read on someone and I caught them in a lie or whatever. >> Yeah. >> And then I'm like, well, I get it. Like it's probably not a good idea to have my wife and friends around them, but I'll go to lunch with them to see how far they go. And the thing is when people think they got you and like you're believing they'll go further and further and further, right? And then so like some of the stuff is like um when I catch it, I just it just fascinates me. I think that's probably why I I wanted to like work in psych and stuff. It's like I wanted to It just A lot of people be like, why the ████ would you want to be around that? But there's something about it that's so addicting >> Oh. >> that's like >> Yeah. >> hella entertaining. >> You almost want to see it through. >> It's like a movie. >> Yeah. >> But I get to live it, right?
6:47 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. >> And then like >> Even though you're in the danger zone of this person. >> Yeah, but I but I don't feel scared cuz you know, at the end of the day I'm not around people that I'm like I I'm afraid that they could do something. Yeah, they're ████ crazy. >> Yeah. >> But like and then maybe they're a little volatile, but at the end of the day I feel like I'm not afraid of them. So like if they were scary like that, I'd stay away. >> I guess the risk would be in your case that they might use you in the future as like, "No, I'm cool. I'm friends with Joe." And that could sound very bad depending on what was happening. >> That's happened. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, that's happened. >> [laughter] >> Oh, ████ What happened? >> Well, people that would see us in a picture or something together because let's say like we're just hanging and then someone whatever and then like later um they would think that I'm co-signing
7:38 them. >> Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> They name drop you. >> Yeah, but I'm like, ████ you didn't ask me. You didn't tell me I like I I would have told you not to work with them or whatever. But also um yeah, I think it's like a personal entertainment thing. So, it's like I'm playing poker like a game of mafia and I get my kind of joy out of it. But then I know how it's probably not a good idea to let this person in. >> In a circle, yeah. That would be bad if it was like your friends and then he was within that group. >> Yeah. >> But if it's one to one, at least you can control it a little bit, yeah. >> Like Bart brought this ████ compulsive liar around. Yeah, the fake doctor. >> [laughter] >> And then I was like, this guy's fascinating. >> So, that was that started with you? >> Yeah, cuz he would frequent our barber shop at the time. So, I saw I saw him multiple times and he seemed like a big fan and every single time he
8:28 I didn't know that it wasn't a doctor cuz he's always showing up with scrubs, his ID, his badge. Like I'm talking about over months. >> Wow, stolen valor. >> Yeah, imagine like 6 months of seeing a guy always in scrubs, always in like that Patagonia fleece jacket and a white coat, same barber shop. And then so, he was like and he would talk about uh how being a fan or whatever. And then we're like, oh cool, we never had a doctor. It'd be cool if we could ask him some questions. >> We always wanted a doctor as a guest cuz we would always talk about medical ████ and be wrong. >> So, Bart was like, I got a doctor, right? So, he came on the show and then I was like, this guy's like a surgeon and a doctor like and a and then we were just calling him doctor doctor because he had a doctorate degree and an MD and like it was like his accolades were just like he was trying to be like that and you know that one Navy SEAL astronaut and doctor? Like it was too much.
9:18 >> Yes, Johnny Kim. >> Yeah, too much ████ ████ right? >> lied too hard. >> I was just like, woah, at this point this guy's ████ fascinating. I know something's off. >> Mhm. Okay. >> But like something is off. >> But you got that feeling from him. >> Yeah, so I was excited. So, I went to go dinner with them. He I had dinner. I went to his home. And then like um >> Did it feel like a doctor's home? >> No, he it was he he was living with his parents, but his whole stick was like, "I'm taking care of them." He had like But to me, his parents were everyone was afraid. So, I thought that he had his family hostage somehow. >> Afraid? >> Yeah, they were all afraid. They all came down like you can tell that they're trying to be friendly, but they were terrified of this son. >> They're scared of him. >> Yeah. >> Holy ████ >> They were ████ terrified. Wouldn't
10:08 you be if you had like a absolute compulsive liar that believed his delusion? >> And was bringing people to the house, yeah. >> And cuz they might think I'm crazy, right? >> Exactly, yeah. They don't know. Who Who else could he have brought, you know? >> Around the time that I figured it out, he had his degree out. And then he goes, "See, like this is my degree. I went to USC and whatever." And I'm like, "Oh, that's cool. Um yeah, I could have printed that out and put it on the wall, but you won't do that, right?" And his face went white. >> [laughter] >> So, you were just kind of toying with your uh It's like you're It's like you're baiting him. >> I wanted to see yeah, what was going on. And why this guy was so delusional. >> Okay, so you were almost like a doing like a case study. >> Yeah. Yeah, so I knew something was off. >> So, you're living your psych dreams, basically. >> I would Yeah, I knew something was off.
10:58 I just didn't know what. >> I see. Okay. >> And then um I don't know enough about doctor ████ right? So, like the doctor ████ just made me go Wait, he was lying about that? >> Yeah. >> But that was crazy. Cuz at the end of the day, great conversation, great ████ stories, super entertaining, right? Cuz people have to have a wild imagination. >> yeah, yeah. >> So, all this ████ was really really like amazing to me. I loved it. And then um by that time, I think his face went white, whatever. He showed me investments, his Tesla stocks. He had $10 million. >> He had $10 million? >> Bro, it was it was a ████ fake like app. Like you could >> Uh >> You could just make, you know, you could It was like You know when we had crypto and you could have your own ledger? And you could just add numbers.
11:48 >> Ah, I see. I see. >> Cuz it's your own ledger. You're just Yeah. You're just putting your own numbers in. And [snorts] then he was showing me his Tesla stock and how he's going to And then it got crazier and crazier. So toward the end of the night, he was like, "I got uh I got plans to be the mayor of LA." And I was like, "I think you could do it, bro." He goes, "I know I'm going to do it. I'm going to be the ████ mayor." And I'm like, "You're going to do it, man. You're going to be the ████ mayor." He goes, "I will." And he goes, "When I start my campaign, can I like talk about it on JK?" And I'm like, "F███, yeah, dude. You're going to be the best mayor of LA. We need more Asians, right?" I just egged him on. >> What kind of Asian was he? >> I think he was Chinese. Right? He was Chinese or something. Yeah. >> You're a huge extrovert cuz as soon as I smell something fishy, I'm out of there. >> Dude, I get scared. >> [laughter] >> When did you find out the whole fishiness? >> I think I first found out maybe after the first two or three videos when the
12:40 videos felt rehearsed. >> Oh, he had stories, though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, like his stories felt very rehearsed and not organic. I think one of them was about like uh cuz it felt like a movie. You know, like people aren't Unless you're a professional ████ storyteller, like the way he was talking about like how he became a doctor or something about like uh like his dad needed brain surgery or something and he almost didn't survive. So he like he's like he's a brought a tear to his eyes so he knew he had to study this part of science that no one else could do. You know, like that kind of like building this type of like cinematic universe. That I was like, "No one ████ talks like this." >> It's too literary and narrator. >> Yeah, I'm like, "What the ████ how how how many times did you rehearse this and write this and like bought a ████ screenwriters book and mastered this.
13:30 >> [laughter] >> Does a freaking hero's journey? >> Yeah, but for me it would be like, okay, this guy is weird. I'm out. See you guys later. I wouldn't I wouldn't go have dinner with them. >> I mean, he paid for dinner and he was a great conversation. >> You guys don't want dinner and entertainment? To me that s███'s better than medieval ████ times. >> I'm more scared of people who are off than people who actually look dangerous. >> Yeah, but here's the thing though. I will probably kill his ass. >> [laughter] >> I That's what I mean by like he doesn't he doesn't scare me weird in that way. >> But then my my time is like valuable so I'm like I'd rather just go eat dinner with David or something. >> [laughter] >> I already know David. >> He's like an entertaining bug you can crush if you need to. >> I think I have a sense of violent like people. So like I didn't if I had that Like he's
14:20 unstable and delusional. But he's like Kanye. He's not like You know what I mean? He's not like He's not a psychopath. >> Yeah, he's not going to jump on a table and start punching in the face. >> No, he's harmless. So So So that's what I mean by like like there's a difference between crazy scary and just crazy ████ funny. >> I'm still more scared of that. I'm more scared of I'm more scared of harmless off people. >> Like Kanye? >> I'm more scared of that in life. >> But that's different though. >> Cuz they're unpredictable. >> Yeah, but Kanye won't murder anybody. >> Oh, I'm not scared of being murdered. I'm scared of being associated. >> Oh. >> Cuz I don't know what they'll do I don't know what they'll do on their own time afterwards. Like I don't know where they're going to go. I don't know like if if if I'm going to be implicated in a crime that they did that's like something heinous. >> Like he has a recording device on him and he's like recording your whole conversation or like just >> Yeah, or let's just say that like that day he had like molested a child and
15:12 you're hanging out with him on the same day. Now you're implicated on the record. Your SEO for when people search your name now is his case number. You know what I mean? [laughter] Like I don't want to be connected with anything like that. >> You know in the game of Mafia, right? And then like let's say you're Mafia, and then I'm on to you and I'm pressuring you, right? I like that feeling of being Mafia and also pressuring Mafia. So like that >> I can see why that's so much fun though, yeah. >> Yeah, cuz I mean there's an example that you guys were a part of at a at at a dinner where I I did that. >> You did that? >> Yeah, yeah. There was, there was a guy that was trying to ask me questions about my past and who I still hang out with, if we have mutuals, and I did my homework on him completely, and then you got and then and then he was sweating
16:03 bricks trying to cover his tracks. And I made him feel okay. So like I just I just like those moments. Like I don't know why, it just feels like I don't know, like I don't it just makes life exciting. >> Wow. You know what you know what game you would enjoy a lot? It's called LA Noire. It's made by the same guys that made GTA, and you basically play a cop in the 1940s or whatever, and you have to interrogate people on what happened. >> Is that Dick Tracy one? Yeah. >> Yeah, and it's programmed into their face how they respond when they answer, and you're supposed to read their face to find out if they're lying, yeah. That would be your game, dude. >> Is by Rockstar? >> Yeah, it's by Rockstar, yeah. >> Shut the ████ up. I thought I played every Rockstar game. Dude, you'd love it, man.
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